Wanna igan Amazigh ad ittara s Tmazight

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idir

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Macc s Latin, which was the wish of the amazigh mouvement [voted] and is used by the rest of the world to publish and research of Tamazight.(Bac-tamazight en France :eek:uf: )


Uccn d tarwa nns

Lqiṣt n yan wuccn dars smmus tarwa. Kra igan ass ar asn d ittawi
yan ulqqaɣ nɣ yan ikru. Γikann bdda, ar ammas n yan wass inin as
tarwa nns: A babatnɣ, maniɣ a bdda ttafat tifiyyi? Inna yasn: Ar t id
ssaɣɣ ɣ ssuq. Inin as: Ma s a stt id tssaɣt kyyin? Ur dark lflus! Yini
asn: Ar t ssaɣɣ s ddin. Nnan as: Managʷ rat txllṣt? Inna yasn: Ass
nna d ur kcmɣ, tssnm iz d ɣassann a d friɣ.

Abɣalu-Source:
An Anthology of Tashelhiyt Berber Folktales
(South Morocco)/Harry Stroomer






Askkil Arial Unicode MS :
http://www.imyura.com/arial/aruniupd.exe
 
Le gamma (désolé, je ne sais même pas comment l'afficher) est d'une lourdeur pas possible, le GH est tout à fait valalble et utilisable.

Les lettres emphatiques ? comment les afficher facilement sans faire des comninaisons de ALt + ... ?

Pour moi le système mondeberbere.com reste le plus pratique.


PS : ɣassann = ɣ ass ann
 
agerzam said:
Le gamma (désolé, je ne sais même pas comment l'afficher) est d'une lourdeur pas possible, le GH est tout à fait valalble et utilisable.

Les lettres emphatiques ? comment les afficher facilement sans faire des comninaisons de ALt + ... ?

Pour moi le système mondeberbere.com reste le plus pratique.


PS : ɣassann = ɣ ass ann
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Ah yes I have copied the text see the source, i know it should be gh ass ann, i just wanted to demonstrate to make use of existing tools to write Tamazight in a way which is parallel to science see inalco, koeppe publishing, university tokyo etc...
It depends what we want, do we want to write Tamazight easy, or do we want to write Tamazight the way it should be done in order people on the internet learn how to write and read their language like al other languages Turkish, Indonesian etc...

One thing we should not be is 'lazy', it is a matter of making a choice and step, Kabyle focussed site's already done this and they are making progress.
Writting tifinagh is the same thing.{alt +}

The system of mondeberbere is in my view not logical, they did not make use of the same basics. And sometimes as in many cases it is a matter of getting used to it, I prever to get used to the right way
What would your opinion be if mondeberbere started from day one since the excistens of their site to use the system of imyura?
Take a look at the bbc site...
 
azul,
is ka righ a d sngh izd l'forum a d iga win tutlayt tamazight ngh tiyad'.
gma t nngh agerzam ur ak ini idir izighzan s ghik li yura i s ifulki nghd uhu.
na yak ara s tmazight safi , h'ta igh dark kra n tanayin, fktnt s tmazight
zund "PS : ɣassann = ɣ ass ann"

tanmmirt
 
"Wanna igan Amazigh ad ittara s Tmazight " tawnat tt a ayga asagh n asutel.

ur gis ini man tagharast a s ra n tara tamazight
n zd'ar anaws ngrat nngh man tagharast as ra n tara tamazight.

tamukrist n imazighen kulld yan gisn ira ad ighzin, kuld yan ar itini tagharast nns ad ifulkin
tin ghaw ur tucki i tmazight.
 
ur idd tagharast inu macc tagharast n mnnaw n tisdawin gh Urupa d Japon ...

I hope Journalist and writers start to work this way the rest will follow
 
Tira n tmazight d tmokrissin ns

imal said:
"Wanna igan Amazigh ad ittara s Tmazight " tawnat tt a ayga asagh n asutel.

ur gis ini man tagharast a s ra n tara tamazight
n zd'ar anaws ngrat nngh man tagharast as ra n tara tamazight.

tamukrist n imazighen kulld yan gisn ira ad ighzin, kuld yan ar itini tagharast nns ad ifulkin
tin ghaw ur tucki i tmazight.
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Azul flawen aitma di souss

ya ,trozant agma imal, hta nkni gh rif tlla darenh tmokrist n tirra, michan ikhss yakh ang afouss gh ofouss ard naf abrid negh tararasst li ra issoussem kouyan ghaitmategh.achkou awtass negh igha yan.
gh oumzwarou nchi artinigh taouri yad tgha ti naytmatngh illa dar tla tmsna gh oubaraz n tutlayt, michan kound yan isker ichnoubouchn ness iff toumndans ibdot d wiya.
nki oursengh man tararast ifoulkin.
j estime aussi qu au fond c est une bonne chose pour encourager l echange nord-sud dont l objectif est le meme.
tanmirt
 
izilid said:
Azul flawen aitma di souss

ya ,trozant agma imal, hta nkni gh rif tlla darenh tmokrist n tirra, michan ikhss yakh ang afouss gh ofouss ard naf abrid negh tararasst li ra issoussem kouyan ghaitmategh.achkou awtass negh igha yan.
gh oumzwarou nchi artinigh taouri yad tgha ti naytmatngh illa dar tla tmsna gh oubaraz n tutlayt, michan kound yan isker ichnoubouchn ness iff toumndans ibdot d wiya.
nki oursengh man tararast ifoulkin.
j estime aussi qu au fond c est une bonne chose pour encourager l echange nord-sud dont l objectif est le meme.
tanmirt
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petit indication
http://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/dspace/bitstream/1887/4148/1/1267577_031.pdf
 
izilid said:
Azul flawen aitma di souss

ya ,trozant agma imal, hta nkni gh rif tlla darenh tmokrist n tirra, michan ikhss yakh ang afouss gh ofouss ard naf abrid negh tararasst li ra issoussem kouyan ghaitmategh.achkou awtass negh igha yan.
gh oumzwarou nchi artinigh taouri yad tgha ti naytmatngh illa dar tla tmsna gh oubaraz n tutlayt, michan kound yan isker ichnoubouchn ness iff toumndans ibdot d wiya.
nki oursengh man tararast ifoulkin.
j estime aussi qu au fond c est une bonne chose pour encourager l echange nord-sud dont l objectif est le meme.
tanmirt
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tanmmirt nnk at't'as agma Izilid f tiguriwin nnk
ar srghant ul, acku ar malnt is nzd'ar anlkm awtas(but) nngh
ayyuz bahra
 
Azul fellawen/t.

Awd nekk righ ad nettara s Tamazight kigan ur-d imikk.

Tafransist, Tanglizt, Taarabt, are man akud???

Yewda y-agh gh t'kerkas. Igh nera Tamazight ad tedder, yeqqan agh ed ad sers nesawal, ar sers nettara, ar sers naqra.
 
Agrawal said:
Azul fellawen/t.

Awd nekk righ ad nettara s Tamazight kigan ur-d imikk.

Tafransist, Tanglizt, Taarabt, are man akud???

Yewda y-agh gh t'kerkas. Igh nera Tamazight ad tedder, yeqqan agh ed ad sers nesawal, ar sers nettara, ar sers naqra.
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Yih mkinnagh! ara ghr' sawl
 
Agrawal said:
Azul fellawen/t.

Awd nekk righ ad nettara s Tamazight kigan ur-d imikk.

Tafransist, Tanglizt, Taarabt, are man akud???

Yewda y-agh gh t'kerkas. Igh nera Tamazight ad tedder, yeqqan agh ed ad sers nesawal, ar sers nettara, ar sers naqra.
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Ayyuz nek a wma, maca ur ed yusi ad nini "ar naqra", ifuk ad nini "ar neqqar".
 
is ur illa darun "e"?

idir said:
Macc s Latin, which was the wish of the amazigh mouvement [voted] and is used by the rest of the world to publish and research of Tamazight.(Bac-tamazight en France :eek:uf: )


Uccn d tarwa nns

Lqiṣt n yan wuccn dars smmus tarwa. Kra igan ass ar asn d ittawi
yan ulqqaɣ nɣ yan ikru. Γikann bdda, ar ammas n yan wass inin as
tarwa nns: A babatnɣ, maniɣ a bdda ttafat tifiyyi? Inna yasn: Ar t id
ssaɣɣ ɣ ssuq. Inin as: Ma s a stt id tssaɣt kyyin? Ur dark lflus! Yini
asn: Ar t ssaɣɣ s ddin. Nnan as: Managʷ rat txllṣt? Inna yasn: Ass
nna d ur kcmɣ, tssnm iz d ɣassann a d friɣ.

Abɣalu-Source:
An Anthology of Tashelhiyt Berber Folktales
(South Morocco)/Harry Stroomer






Askkil Arial Unicode MS :
http://www.imyura.com/arial/aruniupd.exe
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llan kra n medden ghi-d ur ssnegh mani gh d-ghran tirra-nnsen!
zund ghwa-d lli yaran ad'ris, ur gis illa awd yan "e"! is ih'rem usekkil-ad? negh t-igdel (interdit) lmexzen?
Maxx ghemk-ann as ittyara gh ughbalu lli gh t-id-tghwit?
urri-d s ugharas ay Idir!
 
Agrawal said:
Azul fellawen/t.

Awd nekk righ ad nettara s Tamazight kigan ur-d imikk.

Tafransist, Tanglizt, Taarabt, are man akud???

Yewda y-agh gh t'kerkas. Igh nera Tamazight ad tedder, yeqqan agh ed ad sers nesawal, ar sers nettara, ar sers naqra.
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ma tram ad akedun n'lemd tachlehit, ighesaoun a tarim s tmazight d tafransist aked kud awal ad tterjamam
si vous désirez que nous apprenions avec vous tachelhit, il vous fat écrire en tamazight et en francais et traduire chaque mot.
 
Nugelda said:
llan kra n medden ghi-d ur ssnegh mani gh d-ghran tirra-nnsen!
zund ghwa-d lli yaran ad'ris, ur gis illa awd yan "e"! is ih'rem usekkil-ad? negh t-igdel (interdit) lmexzen?
Maxx ghemk-ann as ittyara gh ughbalu lli gh t-id-tghwit?
urri-d s ugharas ay Idir!
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z'r' aghmis n tawiza z'r' twwuriwin n Ircam, z'r' twwuriwin n tisdawin gh Urupa d Japon, ayssilad Inalco
 
idrirawen (references)

idir said:
z'r' aghmis n tawiza z'r' twwuriwin n Ircam, z'r' twwuriwin n tisdawin gh Urupa d Japon, ayssilad Inalco
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max managu ay bdan Imazighen ar ttaran s tlatinit? is tghalet is ar aseggwas nna gh d-ilul ughmis Tawiza? is llant tirra zund tin Ircam ngum (avant) 2003?
mamenk s a ittara Inalco a Dda YIDIR?
Han tirra n tlatinit lli s ittara ughmis Tawiza ur gant tilli f mcackan imassanen ula imsigglen gh yiger n tutlayt tamazight!
max illa usekkil (lettre) mu nrennu V? max illa O gh tmazight?
Max keyyi tez'rit tawuri lli ssekrent tesdawiyin n Uruppa?
Tettut idlisen lli ttyaranin s tlatinit ighusen zund win Akunad' d win H'mad Zeyyani d Âumar T'awes d Muh'emmad Buzeggu...
Han mani gh nn-teffer tmukrist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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