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idir

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Certain/s: yuts, yits

Nensa gher yuts imazighen
nous passâmes la nuit chez certaines imazighen


La tinin yuts digsen
certains d'entre eux disent

Llan yits igurramen ur da jijjiyen ghas yits yighensaten
il y a certains marabouts qui ne guérissent que certaines maladies
(jujji,jujjuy; guérir - ighenca, ighencaten; maladie)

source| Lecons de Tamazight (Ayt Nd'ir) P.Bisson
 
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idir said:
Certain/s: yuts, yits

Nensa gher yuts imazighen
nous passâmes la nuit chez certaines imazighen


La tinin yuts digsen
certains d'entre eux disent

Llan yits igurramen ur da jijjiyen ghas yits yighensaten
il y a certains marabouts qui ne guérissent que certaines maladies
(jujji,jujjuy; guérir - ighenca, ighencaten; maladie)

source| Lecons de Tamazight (Ayt Nd'ir) P.Bisson
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nensa gher cra imazighen
nous passâmes la nuit chez certaines imazighen

Llan cra zegsen tinin
certains d'entre eux disent

il y a certains marabouts qui ne guérissent que certaines maladies
Llan cra igurramen ur s jjen ghas cra n lehlach
 
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The Ayt Ndir have CA (cra/kra) but it means 'quelque chose'
The word [yits/yuts] is used in the middle-atlas and southe-east as far as I know.
 
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idir [B said:
Llan yits igurramen ur da jijjiyen ghas yits yighensaten[/b]
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ce qui attire mon attention dans cette phrase c'est le l'expression negative

Ur da jijjiyen

Chez nous lorsqu'on passe à la forme negative des formes du present comme

ar+ verbe ou da+verbe les "modal" ar et da disparaissent et sont remplacés par le modal "a"

par exemple on dira :

da sijjiyen: ur a sijjiyen
ar sijjiyen: ur a sijjiyen

j'ai egalement lu un proverbe que tu as donnée Idir ou on a ce phenomene (l'auteur est du domaine chleuh Awzal): tizzwa da tawwint adû n tamment mqqar nn taggug, agaymru ur ar tt ittkdû tt yâz
 
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idir said:
The Ayt Ndir have CA (cra/kra) but it means 'quelque chose'
The word [yits/yuts] is used in the middle-atlas and southe-east as far as I know.
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Afra a Idir,

I confirm what Mohand1978 had said above. "Kra" is in our daily usage to refer to "someone", but it also means "something". One will say for instance:

"I mun d kra" = He was with someone.
"Wanna ira y'adln kra, y'adlt" = Do it yourself.

However, kra could somehow be used as the equivalent of "some"; let us take again the latter examples:

"I mun d kra n'imdakuln" = He was with some friends
"Wanna ira y'adln kra n'tawuri, yadlt" = Do things yourself.
 
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afra ghifk Amzwaru,

I already knew the use of kra/cra/ca but our language is richer, that's why I mentioned it.
I hear it frequently in south-east morocco, and read it in the book of Bisson and also M.Taifi.
Keep it rich ;-)
 
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idir said:
afra ghifk Amzwaru,

I already knew the use of kra/cra/ca but our language is richer, that's why I mentioned it.
I hear it frequently in south-east morocco, and read it in the book of Bisson and also M.Taifi.
Keep it rich ;-)
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Ah OK Idir, for the sake of widening the glossary here then...I thought you had questioned the use of "kra". Anyway, thanks for having shared this useful information.

Keep it real ;-)
 
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idir said:
The Ayt Ndir have CA (cra/kra) but it means 'quelque chose'
The word [yits/yuts] is used in the middle-atlas and southe-east as far as I know.
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kra is pronounced CRA by ait warayn and CA by Ighezrane and Ait seghrouchen.
I think in tarifit they pronounce it CA.
 
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Amzwaru said:
Ah OK Idir, for the sake of widening the glossary here then...I thought you had questioned the use of "kra". Anyway, thanks for having shared this useful information.

Keep it real ;-)
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Hahaha waxxayt a gma ;-)
 
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mohand1978 said:
kra is pronounced CRA by ait warayn and CA by Ighezrane and Ait seghrouchen.
I think in tarifit they pronounce it CA.
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tghwzant, Yes also in the rif they use CA
 
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azul / salut

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-- dans ma region : ""AD DJIYYE ""// SSEJJIYYE // "" JJI "" // ""IJJI"" // "" ALJJI "" // JJIT: ne signifie pas guéri : mais : la grace //gracié .......... par extention a guéri
 
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On peut aussi utiliser "yansin" , "yansnat"..parfois on dit meme "yansinkrad"

Imun d yansin medden
 
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