Freedom of speech: double standard

[Adrar-n-illouz]

Chers amis
En Autriche vient de s ouvrir le proces d un historien quii remet en cause l holocauste.
Depuis Novembre cet historien est en prison................aujourdhui il a se defendre.
Dans l interview qu il a accordee a la presse ,l historien en question a mis en exergue : le droit de liberte d expression...........
Les Europeens doivent a mon avis reviser l exrcice de ce droit.
D un cote ceux qui insulte le prophete de l Islam sont exoneres d un proces du fait qu il s agit de la liberte d expression
de l autre cote ,l historien qui vient interroger les faits de l holocauste est poursuivi pour insulte a la memoire des victimes.
Les victimes musulmanes encore vivantes dans ce monde n ont aucune provision legale pour poursuivre en justice ceux qui insultent une figure comme celle de Mohammed..............Les victimes juives bien qu elles ne sont plus de ce monde trouvent ceux qui defendent leurs droits devant un tribunal.............
Ou commence la liberte d expression et ou finit elle?
La liberte d expression est elle exercee uniquement pour vilifier les musulmans ?
le double standard de l Occident qui seul definit les domaines ou la liberte d expression est invoquee ou deniee................
J espere que les musulmans descendent dans les rues pour soutenir le droit d expression de cet historien...........Car c est injuste d emprisonner et de traduire en justice un chercheur qui interprelle les faits historiques.

 

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De vrais hypochrites ces europeens.

Jail for British Holocaust denier

by
Monday 20 February 2006 7:30 PM GMT


Irving termed the trial ridiculous


A British historian has been convicted in Austria of denying the Holocaust - a crime in this country once run by the Nazis - and sentenced to three years in prison.



David Irving, who had pleaded guilty and insisted during his one-day trial that he had had a change of heart and now acknowledged the Nazis' World War II slaughter of six million Jews, had faced up to 10 years behind bars.



Before Monday's verdict, Irving conceded he had erred in contending there were no gas chambers at the Auschwitz concentration camp.



Irving said: "I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz."



He also expressed sorrow "for all the innocent people who died during the Second World War".



Irving's lawyer immediately announced he would appeal the sentence.



Elmar Kresbach, the lawyer, said: "I consider the verdict a little too stringent. I would say it's a bit of a message trial."



Irving appeared shocked as the sentence was read out. Moments later, an elderly man who identified himself only as a family friend called out: "Stay strong, David - stay strong," before he was escorted from the courtroom.



1989 speeches



"I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz"

David Irving,
British historian

Irving, 67, has been in custody since his arrest in November on charges stemming from two speeches he gave in Austria in 1989 in which he was accused of denying the Nazis' extermination of six million Jews.



Earlier on Monday, he told journalists he considered it "ridiculous" that he was standing trial for remarks made 17 years ago.



Handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, he arrived at court carrying a copy of one of his most controversial books – "Hitler's War," which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.



Irving's trial was held amidst new - and fierce - debate over freedom of expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered violent protests worldwide.



Supporters



Kresbach, Irving's lawyer, said last month the controversial Third Reich historian was getting up to 300 pieces of fan mail a week from supporters around the world, and that while in detention he was writing his memoirs under the working title "Irving's War".



Irving was arrested on 11 November in the southern Austrian province of Styria on a warrant issued in 1989.



He was charged under a federal law that makes it a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.




Irving had said there was no
proof Nazis massacred the Jews


Irving had tried to win his provisional release on $24,000 bail, but a Vienna court refused, saying it considered him a flight risk.



Within two weeks of his arrest, he asserted through his lawyer that he had come to acknowledge the existence of Nazi-era gas chambers.



Holocaust denier



In the past, however, he has claimed that Adolf Hitler knew little if anything about the Holocaust, and has been quoted as saying there was "not one shred of evidence" the Nazis carried out their "Final Solution" to exterminate the Jewish population on such a massive scale.



Irving, the author of nearly 30 books, has contended most of those who died at concentration camps such as Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution.



In 2000, Irving sued Deborah Lipstadt, an American Holocaust scholar, for libel in a British court, but lost. Charles Gray, the presiding judge in that case, wrote that Irving was "an active Holocaust denier ... anti-Semitic and racist".



Irving has had numerous run-ins with the law over the years.



In 1992, a judge in Germany fined him the equivalent of $6000 for publicly insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax.


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[Adrar-n-illouz]

Ou est la liberte d expression?
Irving a ete condamne a 3 ans de prison.

 

[quoi]

c'est une question pure juridique car Irving a violer une loi.cette loi date de 1947, qui est applicable dans 10 pays europeenes,condamne tous ceux qui douteront de l'existance du holocaust.de plus,il faut faire difference entre "opinion" et "douter d'une realite historique".etant ceci dit,je suis d'accord avec vous sur le double poids de l'occident lorsqu'il s'agit de son passe colonial.